Comments on: Read a book! http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:02:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/#comment-990 Anonymous Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:51:02 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=641#comment-990 <i>I might repeat to myself, slowly and soothingly, a list of quotations beautiful from minds profound; if I can remember any of the damned things.</i> <br/>(dorothy parker) <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://rhinocrisy.blogspot.com/2006/06/read-book.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="alohaflower at mindspring dot com">hibiscus</a> I might repeat to myself, slowly and soothingly, a list of quotations beautiful from minds profound; if I can remember any of the damned things. 
(dorothy parker) 

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]]> By: Hedgehog http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/#comment-989 Hedgehog Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:48:53 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=641#comment-989 What Saheli refers to sounds identical to the notions that we have embedded in our workplace and diplomas. We all begin as "apprentices" who do nothing but copy the work of those who came before. At some point we try to break out on our own, and do so in a stilted way. After struggling and constantly returning to apprenticeship, we can become masters of one small discipline or another. There is a reason that we have a "masters" degree. Of course, when I got mine, it made me giggle to think that anyone considered me a master of anything. I know I'm still an apprentice 99% of the time. As in this post, which is based on the teaching of the sharp thinker Oba T'Shaka. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="rhinocrisy.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="">hedgehog</a> What Saheli refers to sounds identical to the notions that we have embedded in our workplace and diplomas. We all begin as “apprentices” who do nothing but copy the work of those who came before. At some point we try to break out on our own, and do so in a stilted way. After struggling and constantly returning to apprenticeship, we can become masters of one small discipline or another. There is a reason that we have a “masters” degree. Of course, when I got mine, it made me giggle to think that anyone considered me a master of anything. I know I’m still an apprentice 99% of the time. As in this post, which is based on the teaching of the sharp thinker Oba T’Shaka. 

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/#comment-988 Anonymous Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:19:18 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=641#comment-988 This is actually one of the tangential values of certain kinds of religious training. In some traditions, there is an innate value placed on the student (or teacher or writer) apparently rehashing and reworking an "old" idea in a conscientious, dedicated, sort of inspired state of mind. There's such an appreciation for being a witness (even if a temporally displaced one) to the very act of reconsideration and realization that the sequence of thoughts doesn't have to be original so much as sincere and honestly felt, and everyone who is truly involved enjoys it.<br/><br/>This of course stems from the notion that act of realization is itself somehow sacred for each soul, and each soul's realization is important, as opposed to some kindof historical accomplishment on behalf of all souls. Clearly this requires some idea of holiness in the first place and would work less well for forensic discussions, as among lawyers. But if you've participated in this kind of discussion a lot, either as a speaker or an eavesdropper, then I think it <i>can</i>  make you more of a present, attentive listener/reader, one who is always attuned to whatever tiny resonance is unique and special in the specific speaker or writer at hand.<br/><br/>Wow, I tried to write that in as generic and inoffensive a way as possible, and it didn't work very well. <br/><br/>There's also the notion that thoughts you don't write down are thoughts you lose. The annals of history, at some level, pale in comparison to the record of your mind. To some extent, and this is more relevant to blogging, that applies to your friend cicle and reader circle. I'm not going to go look up this topic in a 15th century omnibus, but I'm interested in what you, Saurabh, have to say about it--if sometimes only because you, Saurabh, are saying it. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://ssrdatta.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sahelidatta at hotmail dot com">Saheli</a> This is actually one of the tangential values of certain kinds of religious training. In some traditions, there is an innate value placed on the student (or teacher or writer) apparently rehashing and reworking an “old” idea in a conscientious, dedicated, sort of inspired state of mind. There’s such an appreciation for being a witness (even if a temporally displaced one) to the very act of reconsideration and realization that the sequence of thoughts doesn’t have to be original so much as sincere and honestly felt, and everyone who is truly involved enjoys it.

This of course stems from the notion that act of realization is itself somehow sacred for each soul, and each soul’s realization is important, as opposed to some kindof historical accomplishment on behalf of all souls. Clearly this requires some idea of holiness in the first place and would work less well for forensic discussions, as among lawyers. But if you’ve participated in this kind of discussion a lot, either as a speaker or an eavesdropper, then I think it can  make you more of a present, attentive listener/reader, one who is always attuned to whatever tiny resonance is unique and special in the specific speaker or writer at hand.

Wow, I tried to write that in as generic and inoffensive a way as possible, and it didn’t work very well.

There’s also the notion that thoughts you don’t write down are thoughts you lose. The annals of history, at some level, pale in comparison to the record of your mind. To some extent, and this is more relevant to blogging, that applies to your friend cicle and reader circle. I’m not going to go look up this topic in a 15th century omnibus, but I’m interested in what you, Saurabh, have to say about it–if sometimes only because you, Saurabh, are saying it. 

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]]> By: saurabh http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/#comment-987 saurabh Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:32:58 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=641#comment-987 Damnit! Even this fucking post is a rehash of yours. <b>I</b> should be allowed to think! <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://rhinocrisy.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="rednblack at alum dot mit dot edu">saurabh</a> Damnit! Even this fucking post is a rehash of yours. I should be allowed to think! 

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]]> By: Jonhttp://www.tinyrevolution.com http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/#comment-986 Jonhttp://www.tinyrevolution.com Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:22:48 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=641#comment-986 <i>Most of my interesting trains of thought are wrecked in this fashion.</i> <br/><br/>The answer to this problem is to loudly accuse those responsible of <a HREF="http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/000087.html" REL="nofollow">anticipatory plagiarism</a>. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.tinyrevolution.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="">Jon</a> Most of my interesting trains of thought are wrecked in this fashion.

The answer to this problem is to loudly accuse those responsible of anticipatory plagiarism.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2006/06/read-a-book/#comment-985 Anonymous Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:06:08 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=641#comment-985 when writing to myself, i get rid of most pronouns. point of view doesn't really need to be clear so i toss it. it ends up a transdimensional broccoli with florets on more than one stem. there's no more need for hedging either because everything is already proven false by virtue of being written in a particular form. scope in general becomes much less important because honesty only requires that you change scope openly when you might otherwise be gaming the crowd. stay within the lines if it's important otherwise, no. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://rhinocrisy.blogspot.com/2006/06/read-book.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="alohaflower at mindspring dot com">hibiscus</a> when writing to myself, i get rid of most pronouns. point of view doesn’t really need to be clear so i toss it. it ends up a transdimensional broccoli with florets on more than one stem. there’s no more need for hedging either because everything is already proven false by virtue of being written in a particular form. scope in general becomes much less important because honesty only requires that you change scope openly when you might otherwise be gaming the crowd. stay within the lines if it’s important otherwise, no. 

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