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		<title>By: hibiscus</title>
		<link>http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/02/our-dumb-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>hibiscus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cetac&lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;an</description>
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		<title>By: hibiscus</title>
		<link>http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/02/our-dumb-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>hibiscus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s dig a canal! feed the CO2 to plankton in a vat. flush the vat into another vat with krill. flush the krill into a vat with &lt;i&gt;whales&lt;/i&gt; and then herd the young whales down the canal to the sea. we could call it &lt;i&gt;the cetacian canal&lt;/i&gt; and then everybody would think it should be banned because it was had to do with contraception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s dig a canal! feed the CO2 to plankton in a vat. flush the vat into another vat with krill. flush the krill into a vat with <i>whales</i> and then herd the young whales down the canal to the sea. we could call it <i>the cetacian canal</i> and then everybody would think it should be banned because it was had to do with contraception.</p>
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		<title>By: hedgehog</title>
		<link>http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/02/our-dumb-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>hedgehog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are funny!

Carbon sequestration is a fool&#039;s errand. I&#039;m sure there will be some effective technique at some point, but the hangups are huge: Concentrating CO2 (easiest done at the smokestack of a fossil fuel power plant), pumping it into a less harmful location (such as a natural-gas reservoir), and then ensuring it doesn&#039;t leak.

One problem to keep an eye on is that CO2 apparently has some effect lubricating faults in rocks, so it may increase the permeability of the gas reservoirs where it&#039;s injected. No guarantees one way or the other. Just as before the Iraq War, I said I hope the right-wingers are correct and this leads to peace and prosperity, I say the same thing with carbon sequestration.

Ever noticed that secuestrar (sequester) is the Spanish word for kidnap, hijack, sieze and confiscate? Then again embarazar means to get pregnant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are funny!</p>
<p>Carbon sequestration is a fool&#8217;s errand. I&#8217;m sure there will be some effective technique at some point, but the hangups are huge: Concentrating CO2 (easiest done at the smokestack of a fossil fuel power plant), pumping it into a less harmful location (such as a natural-gas reservoir), and then ensuring it doesn&#8217;t leak.</p>
<p>One problem to keep an eye on is that CO2 apparently has some effect lubricating faults in rocks, so it may increase the permeability of the gas reservoirs where it&#8217;s injected. No guarantees one way or the other. Just as before the Iraq War, I said I hope the right-wingers are correct and this leads to peace and prosperity, I say the same thing with carbon sequestration.</p>
<p>Ever noticed that secuestrar (sequester) is the Spanish word for kidnap, hijack, sieze and confiscate? Then again embarazar means to get pregnant.</p>
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		<title>By: hibiscus</title>
		<link>http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/02/our-dumb-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>hibiscus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>effin&#039; scientists, man. i get all adolescent counting zeros and you&#039;re all like, &lt;i&gt;what&#039;s the scale of the system? what&#039;s the function of a unit?&lt;/i&gt; yeah well, how many fingers am i holding up? doesn&#039;t matter does it? cuz this time it&#039;s the thought that counts. i should be effin&#039; president, man. i could do that crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>effin&#8217; scientists, man. i get all adolescent counting zeros and you&#8217;re all like, <i>what&#8217;s the scale of the system? what&#8217;s the function of a unit?</i> yeah well, how many fingers am i holding up? doesn&#8217;t matter does it? cuz this time it&#8217;s the thought that counts. i should be effin&#8217; president, man. i could do that crap.</p>
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		<title>By: saurabh</title>
		<link>http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/02/our-dumb-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1628</link>
		<dc:creator>saurabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit, man, I lose billions of hair cells every time I read about this garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit, man, I lose billions of hair cells every time I read about this garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: hibiscus</title>
		<link>http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/02/our-dumb-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>hibiscus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oof.

yes! it is very important to remember that when a bushie says a number relating to the environment, it is not a real number; it is a number that is being subtracted from a much larger number that you don&#039;t want.

for instance, they call their gasoline initiative &quot;twenty in ten&quot; - 20% reduction in gasoline use by 2017. but

* &quot;20%&quot; means &quot;if we can&quot;;
* &quot;reduction&quot; means &quot;after factoring in expected growth, so maybe it won&#039;t be lower than it is now, which is a miserable friggin result to show for 10 years&#039; work&quot;;
* &quot;gasoline&quot; at least means what it means; and
* &quot;2017&quot; means &quot;lawsuits to extend the schedule are openly invited&quot;

on reduction. in 2004, according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://genomicsgtl.energy.gov/biofuels/transportation.shtml#consumption&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, we used 140 billion gallons of gas. okay so, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012300721.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bushies described&lt;/a&gt; cutting gasoline use by 5% with &quot;up to 8.5 billion gallons&quot; saved by fuel efficiency. so their projection for 2017 gasoline use is 170 bn gallons.

170 - 20% = 136. a staggering 3% improvement over 140. even before you take into account the actual &lt;i&gt;practicality&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;real net gain&lt;/i&gt; of growing 35 bn gallons of &lt;i&gt;corn and rapeseed ethanol&lt;/i&gt;.

and yet you know, they&#039;re big numbers. how can &lt;i&gt;billions&lt;/i&gt; not be enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oof.</p>
<p>yes! it is very important to remember that when a bushie says a number relating to the environment, it is not a real number; it is a number that is being subtracted from a much larger number that you don&#8217;t want.</p>
<p>for instance, they call their gasoline initiative &#8220;twenty in ten&#8221; &#8211; 20% reduction in gasoline use by 2017. but</p>
<p>* &#8220;20%&#8221; means &#8220;if we can&#8221;;<br />
* &#8220;reduction&#8221; means &#8220;after factoring in expected growth, so maybe it won&#8217;t be lower than it is now, which is a miserable friggin result to show for 10 years&#8217; work&#8221;;<br />
* &#8220;gasoline&#8221; at least means what it means; and<br />
* &#8220;2017&#8243; means &#8220;lawsuits to extend the schedule are openly invited&#8221;</p>
<p>on reduction. in 2004, according to <a href="http://genomicsgtl.energy.gov/biofuels/transportation.shtml#consumption" rel="nofollow">this</a>, we used 140 billion gallons of gas. okay so, the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012300721.html" rel="nofollow">bushies described</a> cutting gasoline use by 5% with &#8220;up to 8.5 billion gallons&#8221; saved by fuel efficiency. so their projection for 2017 gasoline use is 170 bn gallons.</p>
<p>170 &#8211; 20% = 136. a staggering 3% improvement over 140. even before you take into account the actual <i>practicality</i> and <i>real net gain</i> of growing 35 bn gallons of <i>corn and rapeseed ethanol</i>.</p>
<p>and yet you know, they&#8217;re big numbers. how can <i>billions</i> not be enough?</p>
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