Comments on: Out of touché http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:03:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: hibiscus http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1742 hibiscus Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:46:44 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1742 what a minute. you can't put <i>supporters</i>, <i>speaking on condition of anonymity</i>, and <i>might have been</i> together without everything blowing up. there's nothing there. no authority, no accountability, and no certainty. no story, neither. what a minute. you can’t put supporters, speaking on condition of anonymity, and might have been together without everything blowing up. there’s nothing there. no authority, no accountability, and no certainty. no story, neither.

]]> By: hedgehog http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1679 hedgehog Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:24:28 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1679 that reminds me of the very first thing that came to mind when i heard the question: "It used to be people thought it was immoral for someone like me to date an African-American. Today that seems ridiculous. Soon Mr. Pace's comments will seem equally ridiculous." Ah for more Washington players who know how to make an analogy. that reminds me of the very first thing that came to mind when i heard the question:

“It used to be people thought it was immoral for someone like me to date an African-American. Today that seems ridiculous. Soon Mr. Pace’s comments will seem equally ridiculous.”

Ah for more Washington players who know how to make an analogy.

]]> By: Saheli http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1677 Saheli Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:31:56 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1677 <i>Clinton and Obama supporters, speaking on condition of anonymity, said both might have been trying to avoid offending socially conservative Democrats, particularly churchgoing African-Americans, who share Pace's views.</i> Oh, for more Corettas. . . Clinton and Obama supporters, speaking on condition of anonymity, said both might have been trying to avoid offending socially conservative Democrats, particularly churchgoing African-Americans, who share Pace’s views.

Oh, for more Corettas. . .

]]> By: hibiscus http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1676 hibiscus Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:45:20 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1676 or "i could tell you stories about peter pace." or
“i could tell you stories about peter pace.”

]]> By: hedgehog http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1675 hedgehog Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:27:20 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1675 Clinton should have, could have said: "Are you asking me to call the Vice President's daughter immoral?" or "A man who has overseen the use of white phosphorous bombs on civilians in Fallujah and the torture of people who were picked up for traffic violations at Abu Ghraib shouldn't be anyone's moral authority." or "I did a lot of immoral things at Wellesley, but I don't see what was so bad about sucking off my roommate." (Pause) "Just kidding, people, come on. Now can we talk more about social security reform?" Clinton should have, could have said:

“Are you asking me to call the Vice President’s daughter immoral?”
or
“A man who has overseen the use of white phosphorous bombs on civilians in Fallujah and the torture of people who were picked up for traffic violations at Abu Ghraib shouldn’t be anyone’s moral authority.”
or
“I did a lot of immoral things at Wellesley, but I don’t see what was so bad about sucking off my roommate.” (Pause) “Just kidding, people, come on. Now can we talk more about social security reform?”

]]> By: echan http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1674 echan Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:38:18 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1674 Though her campaign later announced that Senator Clinton disagreed with General Pace, when asked the poll question initially, she gave <a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/clinton-ducks-answer-on-whether-homosexualty-is-immoral/" rel="nofollow">this non-answer</a>, "Well I’m going to leave that to others to conclude." <a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usgays0315,0,2629782.story?coll=ny-top-headlines" rel="nofollow">Obama didn't do any better</a> (though, he later issued a more concrete statement). Perhaps they were too concerned about pissing off the half of the country country who answers "Yes," to respond with the logical and humane answer. Though her campaign later announced that Senator Clinton disagreed with General Pace, when asked the poll question initially, she gave this non-answer, “Well I’m going to leave that to others to conclude.” Obama didn’t do any better (though, he later issued a more concrete statement). Perhaps they were too concerned about pissing off the half of the country country who answers “Yes,” to respond with the logical and humane answer.

]]> By: hibiscus http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1672 hibiscus Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:49:09 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1672 but if we don't click on the poll, what will happen to the gay people? will they be happy? but if we don’t click on the poll, what will happen to the gay people? will they be happy?

]]> By: hedgehog http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1671 hedgehog Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:40:12 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/2007/03/out-of-touch/#comment-1671 You have to see these online and TV polls for what they are -- attempts to rile people up, get them to e-mail friends and draw attention to the Web site, and thereby increase "hits" to impress advertisers. Advertisers who learned at least 5 years ago that hits are irrelevant; they now pay for clickthroughs. The Chicago Tribune, part of Tribune Corp., is a cow that needs to produce more milk even as its masters decline to feed it such frills as "reporters," "editors" and "foreign bureaus." They have the skeleton of printing presses and ad salespeople and the pretty hide of famous names (Los Angeles Times! Sammy Sosa!) and still they want more milk than ever before from the dessicated beast. Polls, porn and other "controversies" are the rBGH of Web advertising. If we refuse to drink the milk, the farmers will stop using the chemical. Jeez, overdone metaphor alert. Point being: don't click on polls. It just rewards them. You have to see these online and TV polls for what they are — attempts to rile people up, get them to e-mail friends and draw attention to the Web site, and thereby increase “hits” to impress advertisers. Advertisers who learned at least 5 years ago that hits are irrelevant; they now pay for clickthroughs.

The Chicago Tribune, part of Tribune Corp., is a cow that needs to produce more milk even as its masters decline to feed it such frills as “reporters,” “editors” and “foreign bureaus.” They have the skeleton of printing presses and ad salespeople and the pretty hide of famous names (Los Angeles Times! Sammy Sosa!) and still they want more milk than ever before from the dessicated beast. Polls, porn and other “controversies” are the rBGH of Web advertising. If we refuse to drink the milk, the farmers will stop using the chemical. Jeez, overdone metaphor alert. Point being: don’t click on polls. It just rewards them.

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